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love "the washington post" headline. republicans losing blame game on fiscal cliff. neener. majority of americans say if the country goes over the cliff on december 31st, congressional republicans should bear the brunt of the blame. "washington post" pew poll -- >> pew pew. >> stephanie: latest time the g.o.p. faces a tireless task between now and the end of the year. 53% say the g.o.p. would and should lose the fiscal cliff blame game. 27% say the president. so there. [ ♪ nah nah nah nah nah ♪ ] >> stephanie: a tee and then a hee. donna says i got my tickets. steph, as your official vegetarian travel agent, i got meet and grope tickets. so did many of our stephanie and the mooks meet up group. >> i love that. >> stephanie: not that kind of meet. we're having a celebration dinner this sunday to celebrate getting meet and grope tickets to what -- >> it's a new year and time for a new inauguration. >> the president of the united states is once again barack obama. s. ♪ >> time for a new sexy li
on the wealthy to the american people today as the war of words between democrats and republicans over the fiscal cliff heats up. >>> the trading session sitting roughly flat on the stoxx 600. decliners and advancers about even this morning. markets are trying to digest these comments from draghi. first, let's take a look at the bourses. s it is the last trading day of the month. just one left to go in this extraordinary 2012. ibex 35 appropriately enough is ending in the red today. other indexes showing a little bit of a rise here. we've seen spanish and italian debt come in sharply and the yields falling today. we saw the euro-dollar adding almost 0.3%s this morning. dollar-yen up two thirds of a percent in the light of perhaps japan may be getting moring a yes, sir sif on st ing a grefs saggressive on stim. let's get over to deidre wang morr morris. >> yes, the japanese data was good, but also the economy still stuck in deflation. hang seng down half a percent. we had pic stay in focus, not listed yet, but supposed to ipo on december 7th. they priced the range at the moment of their indicative
the fiscal cliff. i referred to it as the fiscal speedbump. no matter what happens, we are not going to revert a tax increase in some kind of drag on economic activity next year. even if there is no grand bargain that we are all talking about, the shrinking of the federal deficit, whether by spending cuts or tax increases, it will be a drag on economic growth for the next few years. dagen: is that what you have 1.63 roughly on the ten year? >> the federal reserve is drunk. while back the fed is distorting the bond work it. dagen: does it make sense that the fed is likely to continue the bond buying into the next year? does that make any sense on the planet? >> well, look, i thought qe1 was absolutely essential. qe2 i understood why we did it. qe3, i do not get it. i think the fed is making a mistake here. they could have achieved the same or even a better objective by following a different policy. this is the path we are on. doctor bernanke is obviously completely preoccupied with the risks of having a depression and he is throwing as much monetary stimulus at this thing as he can. i
. the slow drag of the end of the fiscal cliff, most parties would like americans to think that they have political parachutes but neither democrats or republicans want to take that plunge. how to achieve a center, bob casey is joining me. and then iran claiming that they have an american drone in its possession and how america is e debunking that claim. >>> and michelle obama, does she have aspirations beyond the mom in chief? lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do. he opened up jake's very private world. at first, jake's family thought they saved ziggy, but his connection with jake has been a lifesaver. for a love this strong, his family only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein... help keep ziggy's body as strong as a love that reaches further than anyone's words. iams. keep love strong. >>> hi, everybody. i'm thomas roberts. topping the agenda, looking for a few good allies. the nation's top executive meeting with top e
, protect american jobs, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. without spending cuts and entitlement reform, it will be impossible to address our country's debt crisis and get our economy going again and to create jobs. right now all eyes are on the white house. the country does not need a victory lap. it needs leadership. it is time for the president and congressional democrats to tell the american people what spending cuts they're willing to make. with that, i will take a few questions. [indiscernible] >> it has been very clear over the last year and a half. i have talked to the president about many of them. you can look at our budgets where we outlined specific proposals that we passed last year and the year before. we know what the menu is. we do not know what the white house is willing to do to get serious about solving our debt crisis. [indiscernible] >> i am not going to get into details, but it is very clear what kind of spending cuts need to occur, but we have no idea what the white house is willing to do. >> most public statements have been optimistic. we ar
to avoid a winter of discontent by steering clear of the fiscal cliff. they are getting a boost from numbers that show they had a busy number. >> lots of numbers for you this morning. let's start with u.s. gdp. it's been revised upwards. commerce department officials say the economy for the july to september quarter dp eer grew a annualized 2.7%. exports were revised to mark an increase of 1.1%. earlier predictions headed for fall of 1.6%. housing investment was revised slightly down toward to 14.2% but maintain strong growth. >>> consu consumer spending was revised down 0.6 points to a growth rate of 1.4%. overall gdp mark significant growth but uncertainty remains. consumption is growing. there is the fiscal cliff to consider. >>> now let's turn to japan. the jobless rate in october remained flat compared to the previous month. the internal affairs ministry said unemployment stayed at 4 4.2%. officials at the labor ministry say the ratio of job vacancies to seekers declined. it says 80 positions were open for every 100 job seekers. the industrial output posted an increase in octobe
for on the fiscal cliff? look at every poll. americans largely agree with the president which is why they re-elected him. the president. >> when you look at the map it doesn't work. -- when you look at the math it doesn't work. we'll have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> stephanie: we just talked about this earlier. a newly-released poll from "the washington post" and pew shows 53% of americans would blame republicans if we don't get a fiscal cliff agreement. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] the numbers are largely unchanged from the ones conducted right after the election. that's exactly what the president said. we're in the exit polls. to only 27% would blame obama if the country goes over the cliff. blah blah, blah. to that 64%ers who didn't believe it would have a major effect on the u.s. economy and 60% think that will be negative. who are republicans fighting for? not for a majority of americans. he's fighting for the top 2% who he says are actually small
cliff doesn't seem to stop americans from buying new cars. edmunds analyst jessica caldwell breaks down a surprising strong month for automakers but will it last? tracy: time to check stocks as we do every 15 minutes. we head down to the lauren simonetti on the floor of the new york stock exchange. they are slipping but just off the lows of the day. >> off the lows of the day. but the dow and s&p 500 giving up about a third of a percent each right now. the nasdaq is down three points. off the lows. the low for the dow this session is 12,969. we're a little above it but seems like the market wants to end the day in the red. we got conflicting data. construction spending was favorable in october. but manufacturing surprisingly contracted in november here in the u.s. so that is some we're getting. show you a big winner. that is dell, the third best performer out of the s&p 500 right now. goldman sachs upgrading the stock from a sell all the way to a buy and giving it a $13 price target from $9. dell is one of your big winners today. back to you. tracy: merry christmas, dell. lauren, see yo
to correct. we'll see if he does. funker oh the showdown on the fiscal cliff, president obama today met with middle class americans, corporate executives and he was urging supporters to use #my2k to determine how tax changes would affect them. an schmidt tweeted: >> do you think it's a good idea to go out to the people as the president is negotiating with congress. >> i personally am a big proponent of anytime you're blinging people into the halls of capitol hill, this is one of the most polarized congresses we have seen. compromise has not been king of the hill for sometime now. i'm not sure it works. last year, bringing public pressure to the payroll cut extension through congress. i'm not sure it works this time, but it's an innovative way to get folks engaged. >> of course all of this negotiation around the fiscal cliff, the president actually indicated today that he might be president-electable. he says he's not necessarily looking for income tax rates as high as they were under president clinton. secretary geithner is going to meet with congressional leaders tomorrow. do you think
here are worried about the fiscal cliff and the potential impact that it could have on american consumers as well as the factories here. eunice yun, cnbc, beijing. >> are those fears right, is the the expansion just investment-led and therefore not worth as much and that seems to be the insinuation? >> also i think china and china manufacturing has always historically been investment led anyway. much less consumer dependent than what we see maybe in europe and the u.s. but, yes, that meeting is just back into expansion territory. that's good in itself. global growth will be looking for china to be going ahead. so good but modest. so any demand elsewhere could have an impact on china. >> have we had the china slowdown? >> we've had mosts of it i think. but again, china is very much in recent line with the cycle of the global economy and we'll be looking for some of the big growth engines to help them, as well. >> what's the chinese swing factor for investors? >> sitting in europe clearly it's something we focus upon. is it a driving force, absolutely not. the tail risk i think is
was one of those days, show a lot of americans don't even know about the fiscal cliff. paychecks are going to go down, a million layoffs in the defense industry. no one seems to care right now. it's bad. >> you know what we have going for us? the grid, december 17 announced -- on a seasonal basis, they have reiterated once again that it doesn't have the demand to be sold year round, but starting a week from monday. >> i don't buy that. i think they do it because whenever they have mcrib, they're just fighting traffic for mcrib. there are places in the world where the mcrib is on the menu all the time. in case you're there on your vacation. >> i'm learning here all the time. i'm always learning. >> switch from the bacon cheese-inator. [ bell rings ] . >> celebrating the ground breaking of hotels in new york. we'll be speaking to the ceo in this hour. >> whitehorse is an interesting story. >> white house, delayed over at the nasdaq, the new york stock exchange puts out a release reiterating 16 companies have announced or moved to the big board so for this year. you're starting to wonder who
fiscal cliff. >> republicans call it an insulting joke. >> the biggest stumbling block remains, new taxes on the wealthiest americans. >> that's what the president suggested. >>> ladies and gentlemen, the fiscal -- cliff! >> lottery officials will introduce the holder of one of the two winning jackpot tickets today. >> i'm very happy for him. he has worked very hard in his life and won't have to any more. >> the other big winner in arizona remains a mystery. >> the ticket holder may be all the way across this country in maryland. surveillance video shows a man who purportedly just found out that he wan on. >> now asking that person to come forward, show his ticket and bring your papers. >> lindsay lohan went to jail just to stay dry. >> whipped out his membership card. >> beau obama, inspecting the white house christmas decorations. >>> are you kidding me? >> never has drew brees thrown foiv interceptions and atlanta will survive. >>> an act of kindness by a new york cop going viral. tourist taking this photo of police officer larry deprimo giving boots to a homeless man. >> absolut
fiscal cliff deals is incredible. >> and the sad part, for the american people who are watching from the outside, is they don't realize how much of this theater getting to the deal. we know we have to have -- boehner's going to have to talk tough because it seem likes he's holding firm and the white house is holding firm and the left groups are going to flip and right groups are going to flip and it's going to be this dance, and then we'll get to a deal somehow. if you're saying okay, am i -- are my taxes going up on the 1st or not? >> they are. >> they are, one way or the other. people in the country the way they pay for christmas, focus groups heard this over and over, take out a loan to buy presents, against what they think they'll get back in tax returns to pay back that loan. for those people, all of this dance, we joke, and it is funny and ridiculously childish and high school, maybe junior high, it's scary for people on outside saying -- >> the personal approval rating is 9%, up to 11% now. >> let's also keep in mind, optics are part of this. person who has all of the leverage
the fiscal cliff is. move a lot of the damage to the economy on january 1. let's go ahead and pass that. we can debate the upper income taxes and the spending later. it's not implausible, you can make a sophisticated argument why it's a mistake but as a first blush argument the president has the advantage. >> bret: juan? >> i think that you are starting to see much of the posturing and the poxing and the -- positioning and the democrats and president have advantage and trying to take advantage of it. you see it from the polls that come out and most people blame republicans if there is to deal. right now just what you saw from speaker boehner. speaker boehner says the president is asking for $1.6 trillion in terms of added revenue. boehner has come out and said he will do a deal with $800 billion, which is what the president was asking for before. what you have is the outline now, the early outlines of some in between spot where they could in fact find middle ground. then you have the democrats trying to put pressure on the republicans to name their own cuts. where would you cut in addition
be to resolve the fiscal cliff position, and then see the american economy, you know, what a fantastic natural advantage is in this huge game change you've got in energy policy to see that economy really take its proper place again. and if that happens, i think that will also, by the way, have an impact on say the eurozone, which is still very, very fragile. >> all the ifs in there. you have written an article, a special to cnn called be bold to escape the economic crisis. that's the headline there. what is the lesson? i mean i think often the big superpowers don't necessarily look to africa, for example, for good lessons on how to strategize. many of those countries, those emerging economies are doing, are growing, at a rate faster than the united states, and favser than many others. >> yes, they're moving ahead very fast as economies. but i think for us efficiently, if you take europe they've got to take some really big decisions now, and as it were, sort out the short-term issues to do with the single currency crisis, and then make the long-term reforms that we're all going to have to make.
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the politics and get businesses back on track. >> safeguarding the portfolio ahead of the fiscal cliff. the smartest minds in the game will tell you how. >> making hot profit. >> another american made story you don't want to miss. the second hour of "squawk box" begins right now. ♪ >> welcome to "squawk box." i'm becky quick along with joe kernan. andrew is out on vacation today. the futures are indicated high they are morning. this is coming despite the idea of -- the two sides of the fiscal cliff not any closer on getting any sort after deal done again, we are looking at some green arrows on this friday morning. let's get to some of the headlines that are out there as we. president obama takes to the road today to pitch his already rejected deal to solve the fiscal cliff. he will be traveling to pennsylvania to push his pitch for tax increases on the wealthy. republicans say the campaign-style tactics are getting in the way of productive talks. more companies are announcing special dividends in anticipation of higher tax rates after the new year. whole foods announced a $2 a share
over the fiscal cliff full tilt, either way, you will have a recession and president obama's second term starts on a very negative note for the american economy. >> you put your finger on the problem. the point of having these fiscal cliff negotiations is to avoid what could lead to a recession, to avoid a calamity. the proposal your putting forward leaves you with an even worse position than you are now, what is the purpose of this? stuart: stay there for a second. i want to get the company's opinion on the raising of the debt ceiling. it is and abolition of the debt ceiling so the president and borrow whatever he wants without congressional authority. >> extraordinary power grab like we haven't seen in a long time. washington d.c. has been in bubble bland. we are in a government bubble. washington d.c. is disconnected from the reality of real-estate going up but the issue is washington d.c. things we are on the dot dog, or housing bubble from the bubbles stretching back to the 90s. we are no longer there. stuart: i am frightened by no debt ceiling and a person has the authority, w
into next year. >> this is not -- the fiscal cliff is not about long-term solutions to anything. the fiscal cliff is not about solutions, period, not real solutions. what we have here is political gamesmanship. >> greta: tonight republicans have a sizzling question for president obama, what is his plan? senator john cornyn putting that message into a video. ♪ >> greta: senator ron johnson sits on the budget committee. he joins us. how you doing, sir? >> very well. >> greta: before i ask you what you understand to be the president's plan, the republicans put the revenues on the table. where do you get those revenues? >> first of all, a number of republicans said they're willing to consider that if they see the other half of the president's promised balanced approach. you know, where is he going to start restrained growth in government? we're open to working with anybody who's willing to acknowledge the problem. >> greta: who's going to blink first? >> first of all, let me tell you where you should get revenue. >> greta: okay. >> by growing the economy. just a couple numbers. already in thi
wednesday. they offered support for resolving the fiscal cliff crisis with a proposal that includes higher taxes for those who make more than a quarter million dollars a year. >> at this point both sides have acknowledged that there is going to be revenue concessions and there will be entitlement concessions. in fact if you listen to it, again, i'm not a master of the political art here, but i would say if you have these point of views in the business context as close as they are, i would say a deal would be in reach. >> interesting. bill ford jr. agrees with blankfein saying he's confident the obama administration can reach a deal with congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. but speaking with reporters in bangkok, ford says the automaker is prepared for any outcome. and it seems there's been a bit of a panic among retail investors in the credit market amid pointing fears other the fiscal cliff. our next guest says that could create buying opportunities. he's brian reynolds, chief market strategist. brian, good morning or good night, i guess i should say, depending on whether you've been to be
. >>> welcome back. what has the fiscal cliff done to america's attitude about investing? steve liesman is here with the results of our all-american economic survey. >> thanks very much. our cnbc all-american economics survey for december looking at people's attitudes toward the stock market and debt. first, let's look at equity. what we find is the stock market in the minds of americans mired in the mud. is this a good time or bad time to invest? when it comes to the average, we're right at the average for the negativity on the market. how about when it comes to good time to invest? relative to the average, a little bit less optimism than normal. we've been doing this for about five years. how about uncertainty in the market? pretty high.uncertainty pretty . optimism low. pessimism about where it normally is. we want to bear in on the financial league. just a slightly different look. we'll look at the average versus right now. when it comes to a bad time or a good time, 55% on average say it's a good time. 34%, bad time. how about the last quarter? september, a little bit less optimism. how ab
for coming back on the show. we got news tonight that the president's opening bid in the fiscal cliff talks was extending the jobless benefits for another year. so he is doubling down on his policy. he wants more jobs benefits. what is the cost? and to you think that it is a good idea or a bad idea? >> two things. short-term cost of how it will really poisoned the well in these negotiations. we are talking about deficit reduction, and the president is proposing new spending at top of all the other spending. republicans going into the deficit reduction talks talking about another dividend tax cut is something like that. a very poisonous way to start since the negotiations between two sites. the second thing that is important here is how we are viewing these jobless benefits. the administration is firming in in terms of job creation. that is not what they are. gerri: this is a study they did it, extending jobless benefits would create 300,000 jobs. i had to read it twice to figure out what they were talking about . and it still made no sense to me. explain the contorted logic to work here. >>
up on the wealthiest americans, there will be no deal to avert going over the fiscal cliff. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> reporter: house republicans are adamant, no tax rate increases. >> we're willing to put revenues on the table. revenues that come from closing loopholes, getting rid of special interest deductions and not raising rates. >> reporter: but what the republicans are offering sounds a lot like what the president wanted during last year's budget showdown. >> give us $1.2 trillion in additional revenues, which could be accomplished without hiking tax rates by eliminating loopholes, eliminating some deductions. >> reporter: today, however, the president says those moves will not be enough. and the latest pew poll shows a lot of public pessimism. with 49% of the public saying they do not expect a deal to be struck by the deadline. 40%, a little more optimistic. george? >> sure looks like this will go right to the deadline. jake, thanks very much. >>> george, now, we're going to get
've got a fiscal cliff now. we have the fiscal abyss next year. we need to say, don't come home. no deal, no break. members should be in washington at least five days a week like every other american and not leave until they deal with the fiscal cliff this year or until we get a grand bargain next year. they would pull off seven times more days -- >> david faber tweeted this morning that they should be locked in a room and forced to listen to the animal orchestra until they have a deal. >> david faber's hair. >> you put them in a room. you tell them they're going to sit there until the deal is done. day three, no more food. day five, no water. day seven, the waterboarding begins. that would get it done. >> and the president should be there, too. >> the president does work five days a week. >> but not in the same room. but he is home. he's already home. >> but listen, they spend too much time raising money. if they did a good job, they wouldn't have to raise as many money. if they got paid for performance, they wouldn't have any money. >> are you going to run for linda mcmahon's seat? >>
cliff? >> compared to what obama's talking about, the fiscal cliff might be better because obama not only wants soak the rich tax increases that would automatically happen, he then wants additional taxes on top of that would be very bad for american competitiveness. we don't want to send jobs to china and india but almost as if obama wants to do that. at least if we went over the cliff, we would get the sequester, which is the budget wonk term for automatic reductions in the growth of spending. melissa: absolutely but i'm not sure republicans are giving in as much as you think. if you drill down on the details, as soon as i saw 800 billion in new tax revenue, my immediate question did they give on the point of marginal rates and from the language it doesn't look like. more a tax code basically closes loopholes. they employ all the euphemisms to say you will get rid of deductions. sounds like that is where the 800 billion in new revenue is coming from. they didn't give on marginal rates at all. >> that is good news but only good news in the sense we're not traveling as fast in the
fiscal cliff. >> today the president hits the road to make his case for higher taxes on high-income americans. it's friday, november 30th. >> announcer: from abc news, this is "world news now." >>> good friday morning, everybody. i'm rob nelson. and look which one of our buddies is back for the day. >> you know i love sitting here with you. >> we have a good time always. too much fun actually for friday at 2:00 in the morning. >> friday should always feel good. let's make it fun, why not? >> true. glad to be here. i am sunny hostin. paula faris is on assignment. >>> in a moment we'll see where talks stand in that effort to head off the financial doomsday scenario that everyone is talking about. >>> also ahead, the mystery man captured on a security camera at a maryland store. he appears to be holding a winner powerball ticket. at least that's how he's acting. >> yeah. people don't shake it like that because you've got your twinkie, you know. you're shaking like fwhaus you came into serious cash. so we'll see if that is indeed one of the winners. >>> also in this half hour, a
blamed no matter what they do. that's political environment. they might as well embrace the fiscal cliff. >> you heard peter difazio saying earlier in the program, democrat, go off the cliff, there is no cliff. no problem. >> folks on both sides. look, there's not a clip there and they're going to play chicken and go off. >> and then you're road kill at the bottom. >> that's exactly right. most folks are saying since the economy's improving, congress, don't screw it up and you get some folks on the far left and far right, there's no cliff, don't worry about this. we're after the election, this isn't an id lodgical debating society. this is about getting something done. let's work on a short-term deal. >> the deal that's there, we're in this situation because congress came up with what they're calling the fiscal cliff now and they're calling it the fiscal cliff because they don't want to e embrace either the tax increases or spending cuts and i think it's foolish to think this congress can come up with a better deal. >> you know what's interesting, to eric's point, there is a great irony
analysis, a, most americans don't understand what the fiscal cliff is or the impact that it could bring or do you think it's because they believe that ultimately we will get a deal by december 31st? >> well, as you say, it's a bit of a mystery why confidence is so high. it may have something to do with the housing market and house prices being up around most of the country. that probably does help confidence some. i expect as you point out that most people probably don't have on their radar how large a tax hit we could have early next year if the fiscal cliff actually materializes. so it is a mystery. it does seem like right now consumers aren't too worried about the fiscal cliff. >> at what point do you get concerned? it sounds like perhaps a risk of revisions to q-4 estimates to the downside at this point because as the negotiations grind on and we approach year end, it might reach more of the forefront of consumers' mind and they may pull back. are you concerned about that impact? >> i am. right now we only have october data in hand. and fiscal cliff fears really accelerated in novem
from 2,600 miles away in washington about the fiscal cliff negotiations shaking his head about what if. what is the future for mitt romney within the republican party, if any? >> well it doesn't appear that there's going to be a whole lot of one by his own choice. my colleague did an exhaustive look at what he's been doing. what he's not doing is involving himself in anyway in the political debate. when john mccain lost or john kerry lost they had day jobs to go back to on the hill so thermometer automatically and instantly involved in the debate pep isn't but not showing any inclinton acceleration to be even though we're in a crisis at this moment, particularly the republican party is crying out for some sort of leadership to have somebody to move people along to a compromise. he conceivably could be that man but he seems to be very much looking intern fiscally. >> it's a small sliver of people alive that can understand exactly what the governor is going through now. but certainly not within the heightened style of election process that we go through now. one romney adviser compared r
will be getting ahead of the fiscal cliff. but let's get another view of this. gary richards is a senior corporate tax partner. that's the point. these american companies who are evading taxes who the politicians want to come down on, they're doing nothing wrong. the problem lies in the uk tax code, isn't it? >> indeed. the uk tax code is complicated. and that in itself provides an opportunity for companies to plan. also some of what they want to do. it's very important to make this distinction between avoidance and evasion. evasion is illegal. avoidance is looking at the law and seeing what opportunities there are to minimize costs and tax is just another cost of doing business. >> so the long and the short of it is successive governments, whether they be coalition, torrey, labor governments have made a right mess. why is that this tone that is so complicated that creates all these opportunities for avoidance? >> it's because people have built anti-avoidance legislation on anti-avoidance legislation rather than actually thought about what they're trying to tax. but part of the problem with the u.
mcconnell to talk about the so- called fiscal cliff. for more, go to our website, c- grover norquist of americans for tax reform talks about his no tax increase pledge. that is at tomorrow on "washington journal ," julie rovner discusses the health care law. kem dixon looks at the payroll tax cut that was enacted in 2010 and if the white house plans to extend it. then a discussion of whether will be extended and the impact on our current economy. plusher e-mails, phone calls, and tweets. >> on 16 or 17 basis in the united states we have military run schools. the average cost per child per year in those schools is $50,000. almost four times what the rest of the public education costs. the vast majority of our bases used public schools. we could take the money we are spending today, paying every public school system 14 dozen dollars per child, and save billions of dollars per year, and with the same or better outcomes. >> this weekend, you can talk with senator tom coburn about the fiscal cliff and the future of the republican party. the senator has written several
the state of kentucky. senator paul, welcome, as always. i want to ask you about the fiscal cliff, the state of play. there's revenues on the table. there's tax rate increases on the table. i don't know if there's spending on the table. what's your thinking prigt now? >> that it's a really, really bad idea to raise taxes. if you want your economy to grow, you should do the opposite. we have to cut taxes. that's how i'd fix the economy. leave more money in the private sector. the president is adamant about raising taxes and he's dead wrong. >> there are some people saying we need a deal to avoid a huge tax increase but year end that would throw us into recession. just a thought, would you compromise in terms of let's say a smaller tax rate increase -- let's say the top rate goes to 37% instead of 40%, maybe the threshold goads es to $500,000 $750,000 rather than $250,000? does that interest you? >> no. but what about means testing for entitlement. why don't we say the rich get less social security and they pay more for their medicare? it meets the president's animus that we must get more mone
if romney didn't win. this fiscal cliff negotiation seems doomed. am i being pessimistic? >> we're basically spending like europeans, but being taxed like americans. at some point you got to decide which you want. basically american government spending now is getting close to norwegian levels. and at that point, you can't have american tax levels. >> brian: what is their level? >> they spend 46% of gdp and people pay that. that's reflected in their taxes. america is basically borrowing $188 million every hour in washington. seven days a week, 24 hours a day, thanksgiving, ramadan, whatever. that gap cannot be closed by sticking to to the rich. >> brian: don't you think the president realizes that or do you think he fully realizes that in. >> oh, yeah, he does. this is the cunning thing. he's going to blame it on the rich, blame it on the republicans. but right now if you're just an average working guy with an average income, your taxes are going to go up because for him -- pour for the president, it's not about the economy. it's about government. it's about the size of government. not the ec
for digging into this stuff. we've got the debate about the fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling and we're talking in the trillions. before you can even get to the trillions, if you can't stop stuff like this, does the american public ever believe that washington is going to get its act together if you can't stop this 100,000 here, million there, all, of course, adds up to billions. if we can't stop the zombies, taxpayers paying for the zombies, how can we ever tackle medicare and social security? [laughter] megyn: that's the thing that makes people upset, julie. all right, if you're going to increase my taxes to help pay down the debt, help people in need, that's one thing, but if i'm going to be paying for zombies or for santa to ride the $250,000 sleigh, i object. >> i'm a little embarrassed. can you imagine being an employee and having to pretended to be a zombie? >> those were actors. >> i don't know about that. [laughter] i think they may have been dhs employees dressed up. charles is right, thanksgiving a little ri -- this is a little ridiculous. i understand what they're trying
with both parties to find common ground. solving the fiscal cliff in a that addresses the true drivers of our debt and saves american jobs will be a great way for the president to start his second term and for the good of our country and my colleagues, we're ready to work with the president to achieve those goals. >> mr. speaker, a couple of things. first, on the issue of tax rates, are you willing to accept no deal that includes some increase in the top tax rates? and i'm also wondering, what our final deadline is on this. >> increasing tax rates draws money away from our economy that needs to be invested in our economy to put the american people back to work. it's the wrong approach. we're willing to put revenues on the table but revenues that come from closing loopholes, getting rid of special interest deduckses and not raising rates we think is better for the economy, pure and simple. secondly, the american people expect us to find common ground, to work together and to resolve this and frankly sooner is better than later. >> you've been doing this for a long time. can you be candi
for averting the fiscal cliff. the republican plan seeks $800 billion through tax reform and mandatory spending cuts. the white house said that the republican proposal falls short of what the president wants and cannot be taken seriously. >> we understand they don't agree with everything but we have not seen alternatives for them and they spoke about the need for revenue and that acknowledgment is welcome. but thus far republicann leaders are adament don't believe rates should go up on the top two percent of the american people. the american people disagree. rates have to rise and the republicans need to acknowledge that. >> that's the major difference between the two sides. tax hikes for the rich x. republicans want tax reform and eliminate deductions and closing the loop holes. the president said on twitter, there can't be tax cuts at the rich at the expense of domestic programs. >> the biggest problem with president obama is he is a small-pinded president in big times . he talk about 35-39 that doesn't get us out of debt. >> that is tough rhetoric for senator lindd say graham. the president
%, is this really a fiscal cliff issue, or are there bigger challenges, competition, your incredibly high cost structure? >> if you're looking at the competitive question, look at the results we just reported again, reported over $62 million americans listen to pandora just in november for the first time, we represented over 7% share of all radio listening in this country. clearly the american embrace of pandora personalized radio continues at an extraordinary pace, so i think we did reduce guidance. i think it's prudent because of the unique situation we have we're sensitive to the mix add in january as opposed to february and march. >> but many analysts would say user costs are prohibitively high. more than half of your revenue goes toward the licensing fees. what would you do if legislation to lower these costs is not passed? >> whether legislation is passed or not, we believe the rates we pay are unfairly high, and we will participate in an arbitration that begins in 2014 to set the rates for 2016 through 2020. we are already preparing for that and we very much look forward to making our c
of the aisle are standing their ground on the plans to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. treasury secretary tim geithner says the administration will allow the nation to be slammed by tax hikes and spending cuts in the new year if the republicans do not agree to raise taxes on wealthy americans. the gop slammed geithner's comments as, quote, irresponsible. >>> a new york city homeless man has been charged with second-degree murder in the death of a man pushed in front of a subway train. 30-year-old naeem davis being held without bail. he has several prior arrests and served two years in prison for robbery. on wednesday, the victim's family spoke out. his daughter said she wishes someone would've helped her father off the tracks, but said, quote, what's done is done. >>> a candle light vigil in evansdale, iowa. on wednesday, hunters discovered two bodies that are believed to be missing cousins 11-year-old lyric cook and 9-year-old elizabeth collins. they were last seen in july. they disappeared while riding their bikes. >>> kate, the duchess of cambridge has left the hospital this morning, the p
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